Jennifer Doncsecz, President of VIP Vacations Inc.
Plan your next romantic getaway with Jennifer! She is an entrepreneur and an expert of love. Hear from her about overcoming great disruptions in the industry, starting a business, and how she found her niche with destination weddings.
Steve: What is your professional background?
Jennifer: I’ve been a travel agent since I was 19. I started working in a store
front office while going to college. I was assigned corporate accounts. After I
finished school, I went on location to some of the companies that were doing
their corporate accounts at our agency and worked remotely at those companies.
When I had my son, he’s now 26 years old, that tells you how long ago
that was; I was put on bed rest. I think that was around the time the email
(service) Prodigy was out. That’s how long ago it was! I was able to work from
home. I created a home-based business because I couldn’t be at the corporate
account. It worked from there. Within three years of starting my own home
business it was a very different thing. Home-based businesses for travel was not
something that everybody did. We’re talking 1992, 1993, there were still a lot
of store fronts. I created a corporate business where I would do corporate
tickets for smaller companies that didn’t have the need for being on site.
That’s how I got my introduction to doing travel. They would come to me for
family vacations, incentive trips, and for honeymoons.
Following 9-11, a bunch of the accounts I had agreements with, stopped
flying. The only people who were flying, from that fall through January, maybe
February, were honeymooners. I kind of dodging something by going right for the
honeymoon market.
It was just me. I didn’t have an office, I didn’t pay rent. I didn’t
have advertising. I was able to survive just by doing honeymoons. Obviously, the
travel industry bounced back. The romance business was even really a thing yet.
What we call elopements or destination weddings, during 2001 through 2003,
people were looking on how to do that, and there wasn’t a lot of agents doing
it. All I’ve been doing is destination weddings since; about 16, 17 years.
Steve: What inspired you to choose the travel industry?
Jennifer: It was not something I set out to do. I was in a public speaking class
at Cedar Crest College, in Allentown. I don’t know where you live, but, where we
live, there’s an auto mile. It’s one after another of car dealerships. At the
time, in the late 80’s, early 90’s, there was a travel mile, one after the other
of travel agencies.
In one of my classes, ending in May, in public speaking, we had to
sell something. I failed miserably. The professor asked me what do I like. I
said, “I like babies, I like Disney and I like dogs.” This is what a typical 19
or 20-year-old says. The professor said, “So, you can’t sell babies, and selling
dogs is not something I think you can make money with. Why don’t you come back
and sell us a trip to Disney?” So I did, I got a redo. Afterward, my professor
said, “There’s travel agencies left and right here. If you’re looking for a
summer job, just walk right in. I’d buy a Disney trip from you.” And that’s what
I did. Funny enough, one of the very first agencies was right outside the
school. That’s where I got my job.
Steve: That’s incredible!
Jennifer: Within the first week of working there, having no experience, I hadn’t
been sent to a GDS (global distribution management) class, which I did have to
do. I sold $20,000 worth of travel, that first week. This was when we didn’t
have air caps. This is when we could get a roundtrip air ticket to Disney for
$190. People were talking in the door, buying things. I have been to Disney many
times, and I loved it.
I had a background in travel, per se, because I wasn’t born in the
U.S. My father was an import/exporter. My passport was already full of stamps. I
loved it. When I had that added competence with people in front of - this is
before the internet, they trusted me - it was a good thing. That’s why they
moved me right away to work in a corporate environment, because I knew what I
was talking about. They sent me to do the good old GDS training too, it was
Apollo.
I have that background, pre-Internet, and I always loved the internet.
It allowed me to work from home, it allowed me to start my business. Beyond
that, it can create a smoke-and-mirror effect. When it was just me, I had a
website, so people could find me. It made my business legitimate, even more so,
because with destination weddings, couples are from all over the world. We’ve
got couples from Australia, from France, from the U.K., all over Canada, from
Mexico, from South America. The Internet is powerful.
Agencies thought that the Internet was going to be the demise of the
agent. I stood up proudly, and said, “No, we should use it. It’s going to allow
us to be better.” I think the tide has risen. What you see now are experienced
agents doing well and thriving.
Steve: At what point in your career did you realize that this was right for you?
Jennifer: You know, I second guess things all the time. After 9-11, it was
tough. But I will tell you that at 28, having three million dollars of corporate
business, being one person before there was airline commission cuts or caps,
that’s a lot of money for a 28-year-old. That was when I realized that was
something I could do and do it well. After 9-11, I questioned a lot. As I was
going into 2001, it was going to the best year ever. That’s always how I was
looked at it. Then, all of a sudden, nothing. I was very lucky in that I didn’t
have overhead. That auto mile or travel mile, that was right by my school,
within two years, there were two agencies left. At one point, there used to be
fifteen. I saw the business just tank. Then I noticed too, in 2007, 2008, when
the recession was going on, the honeymoon, the romance, the wedding destination,
that was recession resilient. I was again on Cloud Nine. I saw a lot of big,
high end agents saying these were bad years.
We expanded, and we grew. We bought a building in a pretty town in
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. 40,000 cars go by every day. There’s 10 people who are
employed here. I feel that this is the small business or entrepreneur’s American
dream – this is the dream that people coming to America have. Then the Zika
virus made the news! That had an effect on the honeymoon and destination bride.
There’s a ton of times where you think, “Phew, this is wonderful!” and then drop
back down again. Then you stand back up again, you think, “Phew, this is
wonderful!” then have drop, again. It’s a wonderful business!
I have my children that work for me. They went away to college to get
degrees, not thinking that they were going to go into this business. Yet, it
pulled them back. It’s addictive to get that travel bug. It’s addictive to feel
that you matter to people – especially when you’re doing something so secretive
as a destination wedding.
It’s a great business to be in when you learn the numbers that
hospitality generates. Especially for females; there’s a lot of females in the
hospitality business. I’m very proud of it. So when you ask, when did you know
that this is it, I don’t know, I question myself sometimes. You get to ask me
what year. (laughing.)
When I first started I loved it. When I first started doing corporate
I loved it. When we moved into this building, five and a half years ago, I loved
it. Like everything else, there are days when I think, “Geez, it would be nice
not to have to be here at nine o’clock at night.” There’s times when I think,
“I’ll be hitting my last continent next month and my hundredth country.” I get
to think, “Wow! Who gets to do that? That’s awesome!”
Steve: Where are you going for your seventh continent?
Jennifer: Australia! I wanted to make it monumental!
Steve: You certainly earned it.
Jennifer: Thanks!
Steve: Let’s talk about your company. Could you elaborate about your firm’s
specialization?
Jennifer: We are romance specialists. Our claim to fame, is focusing on
destination weddings. Back in 2001, 2002, they were called elopements. Maybe, a
few friends might come with (the bride and groom). We got the jump on it,
because the one corporate account I was working with had a lot of young
salesmen. They came to me saying, “Hey, she made me in charge of the honeymoon,”
and “we want to run away and get married.” I had a nice pool of clients that
were right in that age group and demographics. It was interesting when the
Internet did become more of a pull for people to do their air trips or to book
their tickets to Vegas, no one booked a group wedding. It’s not that no one knew
how to do it, they just didn’t want to mess with it. There weren’t a lot of
people who had any knowledge of it. It became more sought after. Having a
website early on helped. I was also very lucky too. I was recommended by Bridal
Guide, Destination Weddings, and Blogger. Martha Stuart made me her destination
wedding travel expert. That was big at the time, that was 2009. This was around
the time when Martha Stuart was going to jail. Either Sears or Macy’s were
saying, “this is never going to work.” It was October, I remember booking 10
weddings within a week of that magazine coming out. I remember thinking, “Wow! I
was wrong.” Martha Stuart is still what people are looking for. Having some
notoriety also helps. I employee all millennials. Which I also think is unique
about our company.
Steve: Tell us more about the millennial workforce that you have.
Jennifer: I did have some employees that had been in the business for a while. I
think millennials want to work with millennials. I think the social media thing,
we were again, we were on very early. I think because my kids were in high
school and going to college and I wanted to get on and see what they were doing.
I’ve done Fox News as their travel girl since 2006, 2007, somewhere around that
time. In 2008 I remember the anchors telling a couple of celebrities and they
always had celebrities on Friday and I would be scheduled to come in every
Friday morning. They would tell the celebrities, I still joke with them, to take
a picture with me that I have “book face.” So, the 2008, 2009 pictures that I
had on my Facebook with the celebrities were crazy, they were crazy, because not
everybody had it.
I think that was also a draw in terms of hiring people that they knew
about us in their own circles because of social media. You hire one or two, then
you hire, they recommend a friend. You want to have the culture here be very
similar. It’s a small business we look very much for how you are going to blend.
I had someone we hired come back for three interviews and she said it was harder
than getting into the CIA; because we are so careful. We are so very careful
about how we try to fit. It’s like a family here. We do look for that and it’s
true. I feel that when you train you can train right; rather than fix bad
habits, so it is a little bit of me as well looking for that. I think with the
internet people think they can do travel, so I think it is more teaching them
some more in the skills in selling and finding what they are passionate about
that they want to talk to their friends about.
Steve: What are the most popular romantic packages that your company offers?
Jennifer: Wow, lately a lot of places in Europe have been Italy and Greece have
been super popular. Iceland is very hot as well. The Maldives is something we
hear about once a week too. Not that we book it, but they inquire about prices.
Greece and Italy have booked more in the past two years than the five years
prior total.
The Caribbean is still popular in terms of destination weddings. So,
the big three. Jamaica, Mexico and the Dominican Republic are the places where
we do the most weddings.
Zika has had an effect though where honeymooners want to travel. So,
the Caminos, Bermuda have been popular because it is not where you have Zika. In
terms of a closer warm tropical place to go to. It’s funny when you have done
the destination weddings for so long its no longer 70% per of business were
these big groups. But, now you make a connection with a bride she comes back to
you and says can you do Disney, do you do Europe can you, do a cruise? The mix
is no more like 50 or 52 are big group weddings the rest are individual bookings
or non-weddings that are groups like group cruise, a reunion or sorority trip,
not necessarily the romance aspect of the group.
We changed our marketing. Last year, we started a campaign called
“Destination Everywhere.” We found that people were thinking of for just sun and
sand. I have been close to 100 countries. We know about lot about other stuff.
That has really paid off. We saw a lot of our efforts come through. We are doing
a lot more guided vacations, river cruises because of our marketing efforts
because changing some things, simple things; but changing it to get it out
there.
Steve: How has your professional experiences changed your perspective on
tourism?
Jennifer: Goodness, my professional experiences. I have served on a lot of
advisory boards over the past 5 - 6 years. What I have realized as a female, it
is very rare to have a seat at advisory board where you are running a company
and selling. Which is probably why I think there is a great need for the
home-based agents to have more business training than just training in travel.
As I reflect back, just into our conversation that we’ve been having
about, when I first started and those agencies that were the brick and mortar
one after another. Normally the sales people were in front and the office
manager or the owner were in the back. The owner or office manager rarely sold.
So when those brick and mortar closed the doors and the sales people went home
if they were now hosted agents or quick got into IATA or clia, and started their
own business. what they had that was fabulous for their business was the sales
experience and destination knowledge and working with a customer.
What they lacked was maybe the forethought in the budgeting and
creating a business plan. Realizing what advertising marketing opportunities
there were, how to negotiate. What I have seen lately is are lot of smaller
home-based business doing very well; but lacking the direction and knowing what
the business has to get done. They don’t know what a KPI is and they don’t look
at metrics. They don’t analyze their data or realize how important their client
list and how valuable it is that and how it is the only intellectual property
they own. How to market and how to effectively market and branding.
I didn’t go to school to become a travel agent, I don’t think a lot of
people went to school to become a travel agent, very few. But what I did have a
marketing and PR background. The branding of my company is something that has
been there for me for a very long time. People know me more by my color, pink,
and that I stand for love and romance than they know where I am located. I think
that is something that I learned over the past couple of years even more vividly
that there are a lot of tour operators, resorts to know the destination. But,
not a lot of how you should market and create a business plan. I think that is
where we need to move forward in our business. Because we’re not going away.
Home business agents are probably one of the reasons travel agents are even
still around.
For me, as soon as I started to hire, and we were working out of my
house, we had people knocking on my door, on a Sunday, for a walk in
appointment, I knew I had to move out. What was more apparent, when I was
working at home, how desperately the community needed to see travel agents. They
need to see them, to know they’re still around, to know that they are viable. As
many home-based agents work from home, they have a social media presence as
well. Even if it’s just a small website. That’s great because they’re still
there. What I think that they need is a little more business training. They need
to set some sites on becoming store fronts. Everyone wants to work virtually,
but, there definitely is still a need for that. Just my opinion.
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